On the Hunting Ground (1984, Tian Zhuangzhuang) *ENG SCRIPT

Sección dedicada al cine experimental. Largometrajes, cortos, series y material raro, prácticamente desconocido o de interés muy minoritario.
Avatar de Usuario
auess
Mensajes: 1133
Registrado: Sab 22 Nov, 2003 01:00
Ubicación: a lost city in the south of china

On the Hunting Ground (1984, Tian Zhuangzhuang) *ENG SCRIPT

Mensaje por auess » Lun 28 Nov, 2005 15:56

Imagen

Liechang Zhasa

1984 - China - 76 min. - Feature, Color

AKA: On the Hunting Ground / The Rules of Hunting
AMG Rating: **** (High Artistic Quality, High Historical Importance)
Director: Tian Zhuangzhuang
Screenwriter: Jiang Hao
Cinematographer: Hou Yong, Lv Le
Genre: Avant-garde / Experimental, Drama, Rural Drama
Tones: Lurid, Disturbing, Gruesome
Country: China
Set In: Mongolia
Language: Mongolian (very few even you dont need at all)
Produced by: Inner Mongolia Film Studio
imdb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087841/
allmovie: http://www.allmovie.com/cg/avg.dll?p=avg&sql=1:180926
Tian Zhuangzhuang's biography: http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/2246/2005-1 ... 193093.htm
Tian's portrait of the herdsmen of the Inner Mongolian steppes centres on the ancient code (the zasag) which governs their lives as hunter gatherers. Much of the film could easily pass for documentary, alternating domestic scenes with hunting scenes in which numerous small, furry animals are blasted with shotguns. The very minimal plot concerns a huntsman who infringes the code and is required to do both social and religious penance; the complete absence of explanations has rendered the film opaque to most audiences. But it's clear enough that Tian is (as in Horse Thief) interested in the contrast between living by a code and trangressing it - and it's not much of a stretch to see this as an alienated metaphor for his own generation's faith in, and later rejection of, Maoism.

This docudrama about a dispute in Inner Mongolia between two hunters comes from mainland China, which has regularly been accused of human rights abuses. In this film, animals such as deer are shot through with arrows and torn apart by hunting dogs, their fear and agonizing deaths caught for the camera. The director Zhuangzhuang Tian, scriptwriter Hao Jiang) and others responsible for this film appear to take these killings in stride. With underpar acting thrown into the bargain, there is not much to recommend Liechang Zhasha. — Eleanor Mannikka

This movie had created a huge storm in China, not so much because of the content of the movie, but where it was shot:

The site selected was a provincial natural reserve, which is equivalent to the protected area for endangered/threatened species at the state level. Although it is not at federal/national level, natural reserves like this are still entitled to every status like those national/federal natural reserves, and the only difference was that the majority of the funds are from provincial level, instead of national/federal level.

Under the excuse of economic development, the local officials ignored the environmental protection law and openly breaking the law by allowing the natural reserve to be used in the filming of this movie, so that the local government could make a big buck.

This true story behind the camera resulted in much greater drama in the real life by triggering series of debate, but the question was still left unanswered:

Half of the income paid by the movie company were indeed put into funds for this natural reservation, and the amount is already more than the annual budget. The local government claimed that by doing so, it would make up for the problem of inadequate funding and thus protecting the natural reserve better. However, most people believed that such practice is actually destructive because it ruined the natural environment first, and the rebuild later would never be able to return the natural reserve to its original state.

The dilemma is still lingering in China long after it first appeared by the shooting of this movie and there is still not a perfect answer.

Screenshot:
Imagen

NOTE: When dutch director Joris Ivens saw "On the Hunting Ground" and "The Horse Thief" many years ago, he said Tian will become the greatest filmmaker of late 20th century, now do you think he is?

Although "On the Hunting Ground" is not Tian's first film, his "September" (1984) was made before but never released, yet OTHG is definitely his first groundbreaking film. This is the most horrible yet powerful chinese film I've ever seen, far away from those contemporary 5th generation films' style. It's a truly crazy film when I saw the scenes the blood poured down from the deer's mouth and the hunter cut off its head...I really closed my eye. This film made a huge debate in china and was banned in a long time, I thought it should be buried underground till everybody forgot it, but the fact is it came out and screened on TV! Just yesterday! So very lucky I recorded it. :) Warning all killing scenes and characters are real, no fake, no professional actors. Not recommend to everyone. If you are a real animal protector or zoophilist, please avoid this film.

ed2k linkTian Zhuangzhuang - Liechang Zhasa - On the Hunting Ground (1984) RARE TVRIP by auess.avi ed2k link stats

ed2k linkTian.Zhuangzhuang.-.On.the.Hunting.Ground.(93.sentences).ENG.SCRIPT.srt ed2k link stats
Última edición por auess el Mar 29 Nov, 2005 06:01, editado 1 vez en total.

Avatar de Usuario
mishkina
Mensajes: 237
Registrado: Sab 01 Oct, 2005 02:00

Mensaje por mishkina » Lun 28 Nov, 2005 16:00

Thanks auess.
¿Por qué tiene el hombre que buscar el ruido cuando reina el silencio? (Yasujiro Ozu)

Avatar de Usuario
pickpocket
Mensajes: 5342
Registrado: Dom 11 Abr, 2004 02:00
Ubicación: Junto al rio, con Wang Wei

Mensaje por pickpocket » Lun 28 Nov, 2005 16:10

Lo pincho, thanks auess :wink:

Avatar de Usuario
holleymartins
I was a friend of Harry Lime
Mensajes: 1093
Registrado: Jue 02 Sep, 2004 02:00

Re: On the Hunting Ground (1984, Tian Zhuangzhuang)

Mensaje por holleymartins » Lun 28 Nov, 2005 16:19

auess escribió: Not recommend to everyone. If you are a real animal protector or zoophilist, please avoid this film.
I know I'm gonna to regret of download it, but, here I go.

Thanks auess.

Avatar de Usuario
vespertilum
Mensajes: 1092
Registrado: Mar 16 Mar, 2004 01:00
Ubicación: Caesaraugusta

Mensaje por vespertilum » Mar 29 Nov, 2005 00:56

CLICK :!: Thanks auess :plas:

Si alguien está interesado en hacer unos subtítulos le dejo un diccionario mongol-inglés
http://laurencio.webz.cz/mongolxel/classical/index.htm
:mrgreen:
Salud2

Avatar de Usuario
auess
Mensajes: 1133
Registrado: Sab 22 Nov, 2003 01:00
Ubicación: a lost city in the south of china

Mensaje por auess » Mar 29 Nov, 2005 06:00

ed2k linkTian.Zhuangzhuang.-.On.the.Hunting.Ground.(93.sentences).ENG.SCRIPT.srt ed2k link stats

Here's a ENGLISH script I translated today, I have no time to synchronize its time, so you'd better do it yourself. Only 93 sentences.

Avatar de Usuario
trep
Mensajes: 925
Registrado: Jue 25 Sep, 2003 02:00

Mensaje por trep » Mar 29 Nov, 2005 10:47

Thanks Auess ! :D

Avatar de Usuario
vespertilum
Mensajes: 1092
Registrado: Mar 16 Mar, 2004 01:00
Ubicación: Caesaraugusta

Mensaje por vespertilum » Mié 30 Nov, 2005 00:14

Clicked that script, thanks again :plas:
Salud2

Avatar de Usuario
pickpocket
Mensajes: 5342
Registrado: Dom 11 Abr, 2004 02:00
Ubicación: Junto al rio, con Wang Wei

Mensaje por pickpocket » Mié 30 Nov, 2005 17:13

Completado y compartiendo. Thanks auess :wink:

Avatar de Usuario
el_saturn
Mensajes: 362
Registrado: Vie 17 Dic, 2004 01:00

Mensaje por el_saturn » Sab 03 Dic, 2005 12:24

Thanks auess :D

Avatar de Usuario
vespertilum
Mensajes: 1092
Registrado: Mar 16 Mar, 2004 01:00
Ubicación: Caesaraugusta

Mensaje por vespertilum » Vie 09 Dic, 2005 20:43

Subtítulos en descarga directa, español e ingés respectivamente:

http://titles.box.sk/index.php?pid=subt2&p=i&rid=189363

http://titles.box.sk/index.php?pid=subt2&p=i&rid=189364

Y gracias otra vez por la película, más que recomendable de ver, a pesar de la dureza de algunas escenas :plas:
Salud2

jorgito24
Mensajes: 2176
Registrado: Vie 23 May, 2003 02:00

Mensaje por jorgito24 » Vie 09 Dic, 2005 23:58

Thanks auess and vespertilum :wink:

La pincho ahora, muchas gracias por los subtitulos :mrgreen:

Avatar de Usuario
canaguayo
Mensajes: 734
Registrado: Mié 08 Sep, 2004 02:00
Ubicación: Siempre al sur...

Mensaje por canaguayo » Sab 24 Dic, 2005 13:24

Completed.
Thanks a lot!!!!!
---
Si nos gustan tanto las pirámides ¿por qué no hacemos más? - Pablo Motos

Avatar de Usuario
Coursodon
Mensajes: 2224
Registrado: Vie 15 Jul, 2005 02:00
Ubicación: Extremadura

Mensaje por Coursodon » Sab 24 Dic, 2005 13:32

I loved "The Horse Thief" so I'm going to pick up this one. Thanks auess , you're impressive, mate. :plas:
It makes no difference what men think about war, said the Judge. War endures... War was always here. Before man was, War waited...
Blood Meridian - Cormac McCarthy.

Avatar de Usuario
vespertilum
Mensajes: 1092
Registrado: Mar 16 Mar, 2004 01:00
Ubicación: Caesaraugusta

Mensaje por vespertilum » Sab 22 Jul, 2006 23:24

Me han avisado de que los enlaces a los subtítulos en title.to ya no funcionan, así que los pongo a compartir en lanzamiento:

ed2k linkTian.Zhuangzhuang.-.On.the.Hunting.Ground.1984.ENG.srt ed2k link stats

ed2k linkTian.Zhuangzhuang.-.On.the.Hunting.Ground.1984.ESP.srt ed2k link stats
Salud2

Avatar de Usuario
juanbrujo
Mensajes: 1188
Registrado: Lun 08 Nov, 2004 01:00
Ubicación: Asturies en general

Mensaje por juanbrujo » Lun 24 Jul, 2006 18:01

Pincho, muchas gracias, vespertilum. Los subtítulos funcionan perfectamente, basta con quitar el www. y cambiar el .to por .box.sk:

http://titles.box.sk/xsubt.subt.link.ph ... 311%5D.rar

And thank you again for your work, auess, of course. :plas:
"Os hablaré de las tribulaciones de un mono que ha aprendido a hablar, de un espíritu inmortal que aún no ha aprendido a prescindir de las palabras." ("Adonis y el alfabeto", Aldous Huxley)

¡Puxa Sporting!