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La Nube (Fernando E. Solanas, 1998) VHSRip

Publicado: Jue 30 Dic, 2004 18:48
por auess
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Nube, La (1998) AKA The Cloud

Directed by
Fernando E. Solanas

Genre: Drama
Styles: Magic realism
Country: France / Argentina
Length: 113 min
Language: Spanish
Color: Color
Subs: English separate, chinese hardcoded
imdb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0168594/
Awards:
Venice Film Festival 1998
Osella d'Oro for Best Original Music, UNESCO Special Mention;
Havana Film Festival 1998
Grand prize of Honnor;
Biarritz Latin America Film Festival 1998
Best Actor, Best Actress;
Toronto Film Festival 1998
Masters Award
Fernando E. Solanas directed this Argentine-French-Italian-German drama with allegorical reflections of Argentina's past history. The film is divided into four chapters ("The Mirror," "The Waiting Men," "Oblivion," "Howls") with subchapters ("Punishments," "Rewards," "Obstinacy"). A black cloud brings 1600 days of rain to Buenos Aires, while traffic and pedestrians move backwards. Aging actor Max (Eduardo Pavlovsky) runs the Mirror Theater in a former fish market, but lack of funding means a possible demolition. Max is attracted to Brazilian dancer Fulo (Angela Correa), who worries about her daughter back home. Amid political corruption and police brutality, Max's elderly colleague Enrique leads a protest for unpaid old-age pensions. The pensioners succeed in their demands, only to learn from a government official that no money is available to pay them. Shown in competition at the 1998 Venice Film Festival. — Bhob Stewart

This 1998 film is (or not) an allegory of the failure of the Argentinian nation, as told by the demise, and struggle to survive by a theater company. What makes the film a chilling prophecy of what was really in store for Argentina is its timing.

Released in 1998, when the country was still then the world darling and shining "successful" example of successful neo-liberalist economy policy (??!!), Argentina was entering recession. But it was NOWHERE close to the total debacle of January 2002, its effects still being felt in a country transformed by forever broken dreams, failure, and total bankruptcy. So, when filmed and released, whether this film's plot was or not a real allegory of the country's fate, was in the air. As it turned out, the messages in the film are almost 100% correct.

So the film today is actually more relevant than ever, and faithful to the real stories of those who lost everything, particularly the senior citizens. It's almost unbelievable how this film predicted, like a crystal ball, the events, the trials and tribulations of pensioners (retirees) since 2001 (still mostly unpaid or underpaid - as of June 2004. The dialogues of this film's characters of how they lose everything, or almost everything (clinging to one thing at least - in this film's case - a theater, and a 25 year old theater group), are almost verbatim quotes of Argentinians complaints right now, in the present time. You'll often hear them in the current President's speeches as he insists that his country, "raped by foreign investors," will at most pay a mere 25% of the country's debt to foreign debtors.

Yes, Argentinians have always been a melancholic, depressive, negative lot; singing the sad lyrics of the tango over loss of love, their European homelands, treason, treachery, the general rotten nature of the human race, suicide, and so on. This melancholic art form actually peaked during times when Argentina was one of the world's most developed, richest countries - the world's No. 2 for many years in several periods in the late 19th and early to mid 20th centuries.

It was (is) the only ethnically European country, and the only one with a middle class in the Americas, besides the US and Canada, but more ethnically homogeneous than either the US or Canada. Maybe even with better income distribution, as there was never a slave past (with Africans or Asians in any case) to speak of in Argentina, and most people are of pure European heritage. An African (black) person, or an Oriental is still a rarity in the country, a factor which aided in uniting the country for many years.

Remember the expression "as rich as an Argentine?" But they still whined when they were on top of the world; even after winning two World Cups, producing Nobel Prize Winners, and sport champions from tennis to car racing to rugby and cricket.

I think the reason this movie has a low rating is that at the time it was released, viewers thought it was one more "artsy" negative manifestation of the eternally "whiny" Argentines. How could something so gloomy and defeatist come out of a country which was still living a boom in the mid 90s? That's what I believe the earlier (and vast majority of) voters thought, when they evaluated this movie.

But see it now, and WITNESS just how true everything in the film turned out to be. It is really prophetic. And the movie itself, though too long, too "artsy" and pretentious (other attributes generally attributed to Argentinians), it is STILL worth seeing. Especially now, as one hears Argentinians legitimate complains since 2002 a full four years earlier, in 1998. The film presents an uncanny prophecy, and a great allegory of a country's decline and eventual nearly total economic and moral bankruptcy.


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(Another GREAT argentine film, beautiful soundtrack by great Astor Piazzolla.)


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Publicado: Jue 30 Dic, 2004 19:18
por tethor
more Solanas. LOL

Happy new year, auess

BTW,i dunno if in China the year changes tomorrow... :twisted:

Publicado: Vie 31 Dic, 2004 11:25
por shimoda
joder, esto no termina nunca...8O jajaja :mrgreen: pinchopauso que la mula me va a rebentar...

thanks auess!!!!!! :D

Publicado: Vie 31 Dic, 2004 11:50
por Tragamuvis
AT ONCE :D :D
Auess, you're awesome :!: :!:

Publicado: Sab 01 Ene, 2005 11:28
por havel
Desconocida para mí.

Pinchada y gracias.

Publicado: Mar 04 Ene, 2005 09:13
por Tragamuvis
Por favor, no dejen de bajarla, es una película preciosa, amarga como la realidad desde la que emerge y la motiva, obstinada como algunos pocos, como el propio Pino, cargada de poesía.
A mi me gustó más que El exilio de Gardel, y sin duda bastante más que El viaje.
Aún no pierdo la esperanza de reencontrarme con Sur...
No se pierdan de pincharla, la copia de VHS es de buena calidad y los subtitulitos en chino realmente no molestan.
Feliz año nuevo para todos :) :) :), excepto para algunos pocos :evil: :evil:, que de todos modos no van a leer esto..

Publicado: Mar 04 Ene, 2005 13:57
por Tragamuvis
Mucha gente descargando pero nadie informando :wink:
Yo la tengo en release y rotando el friend slot.

Publicado: Mar 04 Ene, 2005 16:10
por oscarriutort
gracias por el enlace,descargando

Publicado: Mié 05 Ene, 2005 07:19
por LauRíSTiCa
Yo la pinché hace un par de días, pero pensaba que era un rip que había encontrado auess por el emule y por eso no había informado.
Baja bien y llevo ya 415 Mbs. ;)
Tengo tb El Viaje, pero no he visto ninguna película de F. Solanas aún; pero tras leer las buenas críticas creo que intentaré sacar un hueco para verlas.

Saluditos y gracias. :D

Publicado: Mié 05 Ene, 2005 08:08
por Tragamuvis
Sí, LauRíSTiCa, es verdad que el link lo encontró Auess por ahí con unos subtitulitos rosaditos en su idioma, lo que sigue es que yo esa no la había podido ver y me gustó mucho, más que El viaje, y la puse en lanzamiento para que más gente tenga la oportunidad (desde ayer llevo casi 1GB distribuído)

Lo mismo hice con El chacal de Nahuel Toro (6GB distribuídos) y con 25Watts (12GB distribuidos) porque considero que hay que darle un empujoncito a la difusión del buen cine latinoamericano, en su momento también fueron El abrazo partido, Machuca, Garage Olimpo, Roma, Tiempo de revancha, Lugares comunes, etc, etc, etc. Ya muchas de ellas no necesitan ningún empujón, porque están muy bien distribuidas y tienen toneladas de fuentes.

Ahí te va un slot para que la completes rapidito.

Publicado: Mié 05 Ene, 2005 12:35
por shimoda
pues yo aun la tengo en pausa... cuando termine de bajarme los 2 CDs de "El Viaje" pondré a bajar esta :wink:

saludos!!!

Publicado: Mié 05 Ene, 2005 12:41
por Felicia
Bajando La Nube :lol:
Tus recomendaciones nunca me han defraudado Tragamuvis :wink:
Gracias y saludos.

Publicado: Sab 08 Ene, 2005 23:16
por LauRíSTiCa
Tragamuvis escribió:Por favor, no dejen de bajarla, es una película preciosa, amarga como la realidad desde la que emerge y la motiva, obstinada como algunos pocos, como el propio Pino, cargada de poesía.
La acabo de ver. Totalmente de acuerdo: una película preciosa, bestial y tristísima. Aisss... se me ponían los pelos como escarpias en algunos momentos. Bajadla malditos y no os arrepentiréis.
Tragamuvis escribió:Lo mismo hice con El chacal de Nahuel Toro (6GB distribuídos) y con 25Watts (12GB distribuidos) porque considero que hay que darle un empujoncito a la difusión del buen cine latinoamericano.
¡Pues pinchadas las dos! :mrgreen: Gracias a Auess x el link y al señorito Tragamuvis x las recomendaciones.
Un saludo.